in response to Kia2379...My son also took concerta for a short time and just gt diagnosed psychotic nsd. With ptsd. It didn't work well for him from he start and he stopped taking it but now his behavior is eratic, and at times dangerous. I don't know what to do either but at least I have found someone with a similar diagnosis as my son
Help! My son just got diagnosed with psychosis nsd, and ptsd. He is 14 yrs old. He has bouts of time he doesn't even remember. He has spirts of rage so far it has been to inadamit objects and himself but they still scare me. He has no consept of consequence and no matter what I do as punishment doesn't faze him. He has been suspended from school 3x this year. We are going thru the local mental health for counceling and medication but nothing is working. I don't want to put him in a resadential facility but I don't know what to do! I see my sons violence increase every day. I'm a sngle mom and I can't trust my son to be home by himself cause I don't know if he's hurting himself or seeing and talking to dilusions. I don't want him to feel abandoned by me if I have to put him into a residential facility. I don't know wha to do for him, with him,or because of him. I can't even find any books on how to parent for his disorders. Any advice, reference, or guidence is greatly appreciated.
I am reading these posts with a heavy heart. I am just coming out of a 3 month journey with my 13 yr old, schizophrenic, autistic, psychotic, disassociative social disorder son, like all of you are going through. I feel lucky in many ways, because my son has been accepted into a residential facility & is finally getting the help he needs. He has tried to commit suicide 5 times, attacked me & my husband multiple times. It took 3 months of Crisis visits, inpatient stays at a mental hospital 3 seperate times & his being black listed from said mental hospital, before someone listened. The difference for us, is the state we live in, Tennessee, has Tenncare( state funded Medicaid) & they are paying for his help & the facility. I highly suggest to look for this option in your state or even apply for social security & disability benefits for your child, because once they are diagnosed with the things I have read on here, they qualify & these will only help you get your child better help! Don't give up either, as you will be turned down at least twice for both. Keep applying with an attorney! If a move to a state with more options is feasible, do it. My heart goes out to all of you, truly. I hope & pray all of you find peace.
I am dealing with the same issue - we need to get our daughter into a residential facility and I wanted to know if you were able to obtain any good information about financial assistance. Any help you could provide would be a life saver.
in response to Tired but unwavering...sometimes I can hug her and it does the trick. It's so strange and heart breaking because at that moment her whole apperance ( faciel expressions, posture, etc) changes. Thank you for your feedback.
in response to Olivias mommy...My son is autistic, and sometimes all you can do is hold them down, and talk to them until it passes. Other times redirection works wonders. My son can be in the middle of a huge meltdown, but completely change gears if he sees a fish.
in response to bubba's mommy...At this point the only thing you can do is get a lawyer and fight it out in court! To EVERYONE that has there children seeing councilors...BE SURE the councilor has professional training in the area of what ever illness your child has!!! BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THE POWER BEHIND THEM TO TAKE YOUR CHILDREN FROM U!!!!
How do other parents discipline their children that have ADHD, bipolar, BPD, aspergers,ODD, OCD or other behavior and mental problems? I am at the point where I don't know what to do... Everyone quickly says " A good sound spanking will fix that". I disagree. I dont/cant and wont spank my daughter 24/7 and sometimes it only makes her behavior worse.
in response to StressedMomof2...How did you get the residential treatment funded? I would like ideas from all of you on how you get appropriate treatments and then how to get it funded?
We can't even get the insurance company to pay when 7 year-old was hospitalized by his psychiatrist for out-of-control behaviors.
in response to C4itlin...Oh my goodness...my heart just breaks for her!! I would suggest that she probably is suffering from PTSD considering what she has been through (possibly in addition to other things). If you have the ability (either as self-pay or with insurance), make sure that you get her into therapy and she needs a psychiatrist that specializes in and is board certified in child psychiatry. Don't wait because of her age. The earlier the intervention occurs, the better off she will be. Learn how to research, be her advocate and seek opinions. If she is diagnosed, research the illness, the prescribed meds and options that she may have, especially in the education system. Do not be passive as you are her best shot for a normal, healthy life. Good luck to you both and NEVER underestimate the power of prayer! :)
in response to ...I've read that there hasn't been an increase in the number of children diagnosed with severe mental illness... only an increase in awareness. You see, we don't have the option of sending them away into hiding anymore.
My son has had every test in the book run on him by several teams of neurologists. They have no explanation for what is going on in his head. I certainly wish that there were a simple explanation, but there just isn't.
in response to Natural Health for Emotional...I really do think that sugar is a major culprit in my 10-yr-old son's mental illness, but it's almost impossible to keep it from him. We have locks on fridge and pantry, but he finds ways to get it anyway--usually by stealing from other people. And he instinctively knows when I am feeding him something healthy, and he will refuse to eat. Any suggestions??? (Bear in mind, he is psychotic and by definition, irrational and unreasonable.)
My 4 year old daughter has had a very rough life. When she was 8 months old a tv fell on her and she had a skull fracture. Since then she was mentally and physical abused by her father. She was also molested at the age of 3 by her father. She was in counseling, which wasn't helping at all. She is very aggressive and throws tantrums all the time. She will not follow directions at all. She has problems being in public and around different unfamiliar faces. She also doesn't like loud noises or bright lights. I've been doing research on different things and the closest that i found could be wrong is ODD or Autism. Please if you have an suggestions let me know.
As I read sneakersjohnsons post I felt like i was reading my life. I have a 9 yr old son that has been diagnosed with psychosis, bipolar & mild autis. it has been a very long road of struggles from doctors, therepists, hospitalizations & medications. He recently been put on a new medication & is doing some what better. But of course at any minute he can go into a full rage. I am glad I am not alone in this.
I think I have had mental and emotional challenges for most of my life. An old therapist who had meant well suggested that some of my behavior and the way I had breakdowns might be psychotic. That was years ago and although it was embarassing for me to hear what she said I began to take her suggestion seriously and read about it on my own. I read that psychosis was caused by chromium and Thiamine deficiency. Medicine made things worse and I cannot take supplements that someone might find in GNC or Vitamin Shoppe for the same reason so I read where I could find these ingredients in food.
Peas and Brewers yeast has lots of chromium and thiamin.
I bought baby food peas becasue they are easy and fast, small and convenient to eat right away. And portable. I bring it with me when I leave the house.
Brewers yeast is easy to mix into it... maybe 2 tablespoons.
I take it just like that becasue i already know I will feel better almost right away. It works for me. These two food sources are very high in these vitamins and minerals. I come back to being myself. I feel better. I feel comfortable and at ease again. I do not eat this regularly as preventative because too much of anything is not good either. But I am getting better and better at noticing how I feel and the subtlies and what nutrient I might be low on and how much this affects my behavior.
The peas and brewers yeast I take when I just feel really angry and overloaded and can't get my thoughts to make sense.
The other thing I use often is goat cheese yogurt by Liberte.... this is very easy to digest and I noticed a very close relation to my emotional health and how long something sits in my stomach making pressure on mywhole abdomen from undigested food. I mix 2 tablespoons of organic blackstrap molasses. Here I get natural Calcium from the yogurt and protein with loads of magnesium from the blackstap. Don't give too much blackstap. It is also a laxative which can be helpful in small amounts.
Please write if you tried any natural ways to heal yourself or your children. When I say heal I mean just to bump ourselves back into nutritional alignment with what our bodies may be deficient in and just feel better.
3 years ago this amazing mom gave me the idea that it would work when she used spinach to calm her child who had felt nervous from time to time. That works too by the way but for me i have to eat a whole can.
Also, for me, any sugar and all types of sugar cause bad symptoms. I stay away and try to keep my blood sugar constant with homemade tasty oatmeal meals I found on the internet.
my son has not been diagnosis yet I used to be against all meds were will have more results in two weeks both meet and the father have mental illnesses my other kids are fine one is adhd its hard cause I dont know tht anyone punish ment cause he forgets he also purpose hurts him self I know its genetic in hurts
in response to scaredoutofmymind...Since this child attacked you (she made you bleed), you can contact child protective service (DSS or DHR). Yes,they an intervene & visit with your mom. Maybe,that will get her attention.
*You can call child protective service & file a report secretly/annonymous. The will not let your family know who called. Let them know that you want to report this in secret.
You can also notify the police about her attacking you. If you have the type cell phone that can record video, it would be a good idea to record her doing this.
If you go to church, please talk with your pastor about this situation. If you do not attend church, then discuss this situation with your school counselor when school start up again.
This child is need of help & it does not appear that your mother may realize the extent of help needed. I have worked with children with mental issues. Long story short, the behavior will get worse.
You will need 'help' for you. No one can live around a psychotic person & not be affected.
Check your phone book to see if there are any crisis center call line that you can call & talk too.
in response to tigger80...My niece is 6 years old. And I am 15. When i babysit her, she never listens, she throws things at me, screams in a demonic voice, fakes getting "hurt", and is totally manipulating. She calls me fat and says the only living thing that likes me is my two dogs and that is totally not even true! I don't know what to do anymore, I am still babysitting her (i have been for a few hours now). She's even scratched me and made me bleed. And i babysit kids all the time! And they all say they love me! So i know i'm not a mean babysitter! My boyfriend was on the phone the whole time while she was acting like this, it even scared him for my life. At one point Lexie ( that's her name) screamed at me in the MOST demonic scream i have ever heard so i went to my bedroom. She knocks on my door and says in the creepiest sweet voice (my name is Hannah by the way). "Hanney please open the door" So i got this scary feeling inside me, and i locked the door. I waited a few minutes and when i did open the door she was just standing there holding her unicorn stuffed animal and when i talked to her she just stared at me.. i'm truly scared. She lives with my mom (which is her grandmother) and I. She doesn't listen to anyone, everytime i babysit her she does this. She's so manipulating. And it scares me so much. Can anyone please help me? I told my boyfriend that if my mother doesn't believe me, or doesn't do anything about it that i'm moving out because i can't take this insanity anymore.
in response to poorashy...i wish risperadal worked for my son he is on it 2 times a day and also on lithium for odd adhd and bipolar i am going crazy here he doesnt listen to me and throws things at me and when he dont get his way you better believe me he gets pissed and throws big tantrums i am not sure what to do anymore!
in response to hischild...Its very common. Its called risoeridal.They use it for ALL kinds of mental illness. Their even using it for add. But it does something with the "anger aspect" somehow. Soothes them or something. He takes it twice a day. We just dissolve it in a little sip of juice. He is such an incredibly happy kid now. I will pray pray pray it works for you! I would love to hear the outcome if you dont mind.
in response to poorashy...This sounds so much like the life my husband and I are living with our 7yr. old daughter. You mentioned that your son is doing amazing with a "new" medicine but didn't mention the name of it. Would you be willing to share the name of the medication? Am so frustrated and is taking a toll on our family as a whole. Thanks again for your posting.
Your child grew up & I had the misfortune of marrying her. Was her maiden name Jo-Ann Mary Crowell. She is BP, BPD, ODD, OCD, ADHD-PI & grew up to me a narcissistic sociopath who sings in the choirs of St Mary Magdalene. She is a compulsive liar. Her current SSRI medications are not helping much. She is in almost complete denial & has destroyed her marriage, our children's futures, a few other's marriages... sometimes I feel like screaming!
in response to atwittsend...My child was absolutely OUT OF CONTROL! ANgry, hateful, inconsistant, irrational. It was bad... EVERYDAY! We had tryed everything from conceling to behavior specialists to therapy!!! I am so blessed to say that due to a new medicine, (and along with a lot of pray), he is doing AMAZING for about a month now. Happy, loving, considerate, compassionate, thoughtful. He's so clearheaded now that hes even following directions better. He is waaay more social and has so much confidence. It is a true miracle. Praise God!!!
in response to atwittsend...As a bi-polar grandparent of five, all ages 6 and under and three with ADHD/ADD, I can certainly agree that your last option can work! (God). I am 52 and was diagnosed in my late 30's as being bi-polar with manic depression. It took about 4 years to find a medication that worked and as long as I take it as prescribed, I am level headed and hold down a complicated, stressful job as well as deal with the kids.
These three grandchildren live with me and my wife so when I say grandparent, in reality we are the 'parents'. The boys can act up daily, multiple times and then we see them acting perfectly normal, leaving us to wonder if part of the issue is just kids pushing their boundaries to see how far they can go. These spells most times involve kicking and screaming, not eating and tearing up whatever they get their hands on.
When all three take their prescribed meds, they are fine 90% of the time. As a former school board president I said years ago I woud never medicate my children and say these behavior patterns as a need for more challenging curriculum or responsibility at home. No living with this daily I have had to 'rethink' my position.
The situation is stressful, even with just one. It is important to not lose your cool in front of your son. Be consistent and don't give in to a tantrum. When in a mellow, depressed mood, read to him and do quiet things. Continue to work with your doctor and encourage prayer together and a strong spiritual life. Not understanding can contribute to the problem, but you have already taken the first step. At home visits by a counselor in the home may help.
in response to poorashy...I do not mean to pry, but I have a 4 year old as well. Jake is being evaluated for bi-polar. Could you please tell me how often your child rages, what sets them off and how they act? I am so stressed I do not know where to turn, exceopt to God! Please help!
I have a 7 yer old that JUST FINALLY got diagnosed with ALL the things your daughter has but my son doesnt hear voices (that i know of yet ) I have tried for YEARS to get him help and i have gotten nothing but a runaround. As of this week they recommended that he be put in a residential treament facility - (he would live basically on lockdown and only be able to leave on good behavior ) I do NOT agree with this and stated that i would prefer a day treatment program and continued therapy at home - we ALL left the meeting in agreeance - THEN the councilor who was supposed to be helping me called DSS on me and now i cant remove my son even if i wanted to and she stated that if the STATE agreed with prtf then they would PUT him there - no matter what i say. OMG - what do i do? DO i have ANY rights? I feel SO outraged and that my son is being "kidnapped" from me - WHAT DO I DO!?!?!
in response to MarKat...Hey.I just read your post and it caught my eye. I have a four year old that is bi polar and is on meds. but he still rages and acts totally insain. Our family suffers so much. Im taking a spiritual warfare class right now and am wondering the SAME thing.
in response to Kia2379...I am very sorry to hear that. The medication must work different with each individual. My son tried several medications before we found one that worked for him.
I have read these posts and with so many children developing severe mental health problems, it makes me wonder...
I mean are the doctors over-diagnosing and over-medicating children or is there something else causing the problem?
Could there be an organic reason why so many children are having the same symptoms? Is it possibly a severe allergic reaction, tumor, hormone imbalance, etc?
I am not trying to minimize any of the problems you are having with your children, I am simply trying to figure out why so many children are being diagnosed with mental health problems and exhibiting such extreme behaviors at such a very young age. There has to be a reason for this epidemic.
in response to Inspiration...Hell I am from NY and I have a 9yr old son who is also on Concerta. He been on it for the last 2 yrs but now it seems not to be working as well as before. Now it seems he is developing signes of Psychotic. I been crying since they told me and im not sure what to do...
in response to Barbie Unike...I only have experience with a child who has ADHD. He currently takes Concerta and it seems to work well for him. Maybe you can mention that medication to your doctor and see if it will also aid in other behavioral disorders.
Hi my named is sandy n I have a song name Roberto n he is 9 yrs old n he is diagnosed with ADHD, BI-POLAR, PSYCHOSIS, and OBSESSIVE Behavior bt i have struggled for yrs with him n try many difrents medicine n i guess Im running out of solution n nw my second child is a boy too named james n he is 7 n nw he having strugled with the things the is nt real n reality ...... The doctor is telling me he maybe have Psychotic stage or he is sharing the Psychotic from his brother bt the they talking about difrents things they see n nt the same so if u give me a opinion, what u think is happening to them nw ???????????
Thank you for your post. I have a son that is Bi polar with ocd and sometimes I feel like I am the only one who cares enough to try to understand him. He lives in a world all his own and the times that he is happy are so few and the times that he is unhappy are so common. I want to express my gratitude for putting your daughters story out there for others like us that fight this battle each and every day.
in response to Ireland...I know it is two years since this was posted and wanted to ask Ireland if she still feels that these problems can be spiritual. A lot of people want to put my daughter on meds and I may have to but I am very interested in the concept of prayer helping these children.
in response to Pray...hello. I am sorry to hear about your situation. I have done over 10 years of research on alternate reasons individuals, such as your son, develop such symptoms along the lines of demonic manifestations. Too much information to get into here. Have you ever thought that maybe there could be a spiritual aspect to your sons behavior? The mental health system is scientific, based on theories, just as spiritual matters are based in theory. They are in direct opposition with each other but who is right? Can anyone really say whether "some" mental illnesses are for sure based on medical or spiritual causes? Your son could quite possibly have demon attachments or influence and this is something I would not rule out. I urge you to also explore prayer and praying over your son also to cover all of your bases and choices to succeed in helping your son achieve inner peace...God Bless
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in response to Pray...How familiar this is with my 10 yr old. She is seeing a neurologist at Childrens hospital now because the psyciatrist ran a sleep deprived eeg and it came back abnormal. More tests will have to be done to see what is going on with her. My heart goes out to you because I know all to well these symptoms you have described. I had to lock in a cabinet all knives, sissors and anything else she uses to hurt herself. As for the violance it is massive in her and she roller coasters up and down on a daily basis. Please know that you both are in my prayers daily. My heart hurts for you because all we want is for our little ones to have a normal life. Bless you sweet friend. Donna
I have a seven year old who has A.D.H.D and O.D.D and has juust been dignosised with psychosis. He has stabed his brother and has hit me and through temper tantrums he grabs knives and tries to stab me and his brother. I have taken all the knives out of his reach and hid them any thing sharp is a hazard to him. It scares me to know that he has these problems because I want him to have a normal life! He told me he sees demons and they tell him to do things and they scare him. He said to me he has a friend that is named goodboy and he tells him to do good things but if he listens to him bad boy holds him down and covers his mouth and shows him scary things! He hears voices all the time he will look at me and ask me if I hear the screams and monsters growling. When I tell no he tells me that I hate him and he has a fit. So the therapist and the psychistrist agreed that I needed to sit him down and write a book on him and what bothers him. I write in it every day and when I read it back to myself it makes me cry!! Like his best dream was people turning into animals and drinking each others blood! I know all I can do now is pray that something will help him I will never give up on him no matter what!!!!!
Thank you desert rat mum. This has been very helpful. My daughter has been diagnosed with psychosis. She's 11. My ex-spouse, her husband, is similar to her, but untreated. She is now hospitalized for the second time in one year. Last night she was discharged, but I had to bring her back in because she was talking about the clown that was chasing her that wanted to hurt her, the voices telling her to do things which she did, and how she felt "drunk" (that's when the clown was making her laugh, but then it switched to chasing her and threatening her). Your life sounds so difficult with your stepson, but you show such strength in your post. Your so right about them triggering us and I feel so much guilt and despair sometimes. And I think of her normal moments when she's such a sweet girl. I worry about how her condition will grow worse as she becomes a teen. I have four children, so the others don't get as much attention as they should because I'm often consumed with my daughter. Your post was very good to read. Thank you.
hi my son was just diagnose with the same thing and i understand what you are feeling and share the same opinions as to where medication but nothing else worked my son was not getting any sleep and it was affecting his school and so i started giving him meds i just hope it works for the best because as you want i want him to have a normal life, a happy life. Just to be able to function in this world and be happy.thank you for sharing
Hi i am new to this i have three kids and have ADHD and other thinking wrong with them i have only just got them seen has i have had to wait for 12 mouths to see a doctor i am on my own and its really hard to cope with them i have a little girl who has not long been abused and she is really hard work i am waiting for her to get help has she is 8 in a few days and she has been trying to harm her self and she keep telling me she has some one in her head telling her things she dose not sleep it is really scary at the minutie has i really dont no what she going to do nexts i dont no if its because of what has happend or is she got some think rong with her i hope u can under stand what i have said has i have leaning disabilitys my self i am glad i have found some think like this has its really hard to talk to other about it when there dont under stand it all.
My eight-year-old son has recently crossed the line into the psychotic child category. He has struggled for years, but has suddenly regressed over the past month. I am still in shock, and I'm trying to process what is going on. If he doesn't have a breakthrough soon, he will have to be hospitalized or committed to a full-time facility. My heart breaks for him, but I have done all I can do, and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
I am so encouraged to have found a group of people who have been through what I'm going through right now. Thank you for sharing your stories and words of wisdom.
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